I think that there is an amount of political involvement here. Look, the Japanese have had the Shinkansen Bullet train since 1964
A completely different form of high speed rail. Hyperloop is attempting something new. And no, I do not believe that Musk and his pursuits are influenced by politics or national pride, but by sound engineering with a specific goal in mind.
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If the hyperloop concept was feasible don't you think they would have done it as the world experts in fast transport. If it ever does get built it will likely end up like Concord, technically innovative, only for the mega rich, and will close due to safety concerns and being unprofitable.
The hyperloop when viewed from an engineering perspective is quite feasible. As to why the Japanese have not considered I would suggest that this technology at the proposed speeds would not be a good fit for earthquake prone Japan or any other such region. It would however be quite suitable for east/west transport in the US. Just like the Japanese high speed rails it would require the building of dedicated infrastructure. In my mind that would be elevated tubes on pylons that could compensate for small lateral earth movements. And destination hubs designed to get people from the tube to other locations within the city. This all cost$ and this is where it will begin to unravel, especially now that the price of crude is in decline. High speed rail here has never been popular because why "train" when you can fly. An no one wants to spend the money to build such infrastructure. Heck we don't want to spend money to maintain existing infrastructure.
Concorde was too expensive to operate and because of that it could appeal only to the wealthy. Had they been able to sell reasonably priced tickets they might have been more financially successful. Also Concorde limited its passenger selection because of its size. Business men/women with small amounts of luggage. Not an ideal plane for entire families with massive quantities of luggage all headed for DisneyWorld. But the nature of the Concorde beast was that it came with high operating expenses and the more it flew the more the costs escalated. This sounded its demise. Along with some other technical issues.
Concorde was too expensive to operate and because of that it could appeal only to the wealthy. Had they been able to sell reasonably priced tickets they might have been more financially successful. Also Concorde limited its passenger selection because of its size. Business men/women with small amounts of luggage. Not an ideal plane for entire families with massive quantities of luggage all headed for DisneyWorld. But the nature of the Concorde beast was that it came with high operating expenses and the more it flew the more the costs escalated. This sounded its demise. Along with some other technical issues.
I miss the Concorde - (Not that I could ever fly on it ) but,
that was one cool aircraft !
The hyperloop when viewed from an engineering perspective is quite feasible. As to why the Japanese have not considered I would suggest that this technology at the proposed speeds would not be a good fit for earthquake prone Japan or any other such region.
The hyperloop when viewed from an engineering perspective is quite feasible. As to why the Japanese have not considered I would suggest that this technology at the proposed speeds would not be a good fit for earthquake prone Japan or any other such region.
Indeed. The Pacific 'Ring Of Fire' is quite populated, thus simultaneously presents a threat to such systems in areas where they would make the most sense in terms of business/amenity.
{ For some reason this brings forth in my mind visions of Thunderbirds Are Go* type rescue situations. You know : Scott doing something tricky in One using thrusters, Virgil with sweaty brow handling some multi-axle vehicle that starts to skid dangerously, Brains swinging down on a cable to attach a rope, Tin-tin expertly manning the comms, Lady Penelope shooting some uni-brow villain with a pink pistol she whips out of her pink handbag .... :-) }
Cheers, Mike.
* These days it would probably be John smoking a snow cone in Five ( the space station ) because he really doesn't have anything meaningful to do. Automation has made him redundant as any idiot with a mobile phone can call International Rescue direct now. Now that Bowie is dead he doesn't want to come down. Parker has gone back to where he truly belongs, as a barkeep in Brixton. He does the occasional EastEnders cameo. Father Jeff has ( finally ) been arrested for securities fraud and is spending Fifteen in Tuscon Federal Prison ( the boys did try to break him out, but The Mole jammed solid under the freeway ). He had been the previously unknown silent partner in Bear-Stearns. Alan who usually piloted Three now works for SpaceX. Gordon of underwater Four fame moved on to get much better money with Bob Ballard. Lady Penelope died in shameful exile, a broken woman, because when young she had been intimate with Burgess, Mclean, Philby and Blunt. Scott went to Acapulco and co-owns a beach bar with Brains. Virgil is a consultant for LEGO and lives in Denmark. He is on his fourth marriage. As for the luxurious Tracy Island it was accidentally nuked during a Pacific test in the 70's. No one knew it was there because it didn't officially exist. On the upside no one has seen Tin-Tin or the annoying grandmother since.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
Love the Thunderbirds update, but what happened to Kyrano, Tin tins father? Or the arch villain the Hood??*
* don't tell me, he got elected as POTUS posing as Nixon!!
I'll get back to you.
I should have mentioned that Virgil was LEGO's employee of the year in 1996 because he had this real knack for choosing which modules should go together on the assembly lines. Strange skill that. Two of his marriages failed because he was a terrible gardener. All the trees he planted just fell over when anything was driven past them.
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
But you have to admit that if we can build C130 Hercules aircraft, Jump Jets and F35B's, we could build Thunderbird 2 today, and Thunderbird 1 could show Space X how it's done!
And in any case if Penelope had any real class she would have had a Bentley Continental, not some cheap roller :-)
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
I'm prepared to go on record and say it won't happen. Even if it does, people won't use it.
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When – and very much if – completed, the Hyperloop would work by propelling pods at high speeds through a tube, which in theory would be able to make the journey from San Francisco to Los Angeles in just 30 minutes.
The Nevada test, in which a sled accelerated to 116 mph (187km/h) in 1.1 seconds, represents a very early proof of concept; there are a vast number of hurdles that the developers of Hyperloop still have to clear if the technology is to become a reality.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
RE: I think that there is
)
A completely different form of high speed rail. Hyperloop is attempting something new. And no, I do not believe that Musk and his pursuits are influenced by politics or national pride, but by sound engineering with a specific goal in mind.
The hyperloop when viewed from an engineering perspective is quite feasible. As to why the Japanese have not considered I would suggest that this technology at the proposed speeds would not be a good fit for earthquake prone Japan or any other such region. It would however be quite suitable for east/west transport in the US. Just like the Japanese high speed rails it would require the building of dedicated infrastructure. In my mind that would be elevated tubes on pylons that could compensate for small lateral earth movements. And destination hubs designed to get people from the tube to other locations within the city. This all cost$ and this is where it will begin to unravel, especially now that the price of crude is in decline. High speed rail here has never been popular because why "train" when you can fly. An no one wants to spend the money to build such infrastructure. Heck we don't want to spend money to maintain existing infrastructure.
Concorde was too expensive to operate and because of that it could appeal only to the wealthy. Had they been able to sell reasonably priced tickets they might have been more financially successful. Also Concorde limited its passenger selection because of its size. Business men/women with small amounts of luggage. Not an ideal plane for entire families with massive quantities of luggage all headed for DisneyWorld. But the nature of the Concorde beast was that it came with high operating expenses and the more it flew the more the costs escalated. This sounded its demise. Along with some other technical issues.
RE: Concorde was too
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I miss the Concorde - (Not that I could ever fly on it ) but,
that was one cool aircraft !
They need a new Mach 7 Ramjet Concorde : )
Bill
RE: The hyperloop when
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http://www.govtech.com/fs/LA-to-SF-in-an-Hour-UC-Irvine-Students-Submit-Hyperloop-Proposal.html
Seems the original proposal was to build it essentially on top of the San Andres earthquake fault.
RE: RE: The hyperloop
)
Indeed. The Pacific 'Ring Of Fire' is quite populated, thus simultaneously presents a threat to such systems in areas where they would make the most sense in terms of business/amenity.
{ For some reason this brings forth in my mind visions of Thunderbirds Are Go* type rescue situations. You know : Scott doing something tricky in One using thrusters, Virgil with sweaty brow handling some multi-axle vehicle that starts to skid dangerously, Brains swinging down on a cable to attach a rope, Tin-tin expertly manning the comms, Lady Penelope shooting some uni-brow villain with a pink pistol she whips out of her pink handbag .... :-) }
Cheers, Mike.
* These days it would probably be John smoking a snow cone in Five ( the space station ) because he really doesn't have anything meaningful to do. Automation has made him redundant as any idiot with a mobile phone can call International Rescue direct now. Now that Bowie is dead he doesn't want to come down. Parker has gone back to where he truly belongs, as a barkeep in Brixton. He does the occasional EastEnders cameo. Father Jeff has ( finally ) been arrested for securities fraud and is spending Fifteen in Tuscon Federal Prison ( the boys did try to break him out, but The Mole jammed solid under the freeway ). He had been the previously unknown silent partner in Bear-Stearns. Alan who usually piloted Three now works for SpaceX. Gordon of underwater Four fame moved on to get much better money with Bob Ballard. Lady Penelope died in shameful exile, a broken woman, because when young she had been intimate with Burgess, Mclean, Philby and Blunt. Scott went to Acapulco and co-owns a beach bar with Brains. Virgil is a consultant for LEGO and lives in Denmark. He is on his fourth marriage. As for the luxurious Tracy Island it was accidentally nuked during a Pacific test in the 70's. No one knew it was there because it didn't officially exist. On the upside no one has seen Tin-Tin or the annoying grandmother since.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
Guffaw, giggle, snigger,
)
Guffaw, giggle, snigger, hehehehe
Love the Thunderbirds update, but what happened to Kyrano, Tin tins father? Or the arch villain the Hood??*
* don't tell me, he got elected as POTUS posing as Nixon!!
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
RE: Guffaw, giggle,
)
I'll get back to you.
I should have mentioned that Virgil was LEGO's employee of the year in 1996 because he had this real knack for choosing which modules should go together on the assembly lines. Strange skill that. Two of his marriages failed because he was a terrible gardener. All the trees he planted just fell over when anything was driven past them.
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
But you have to admit that if
)
But you have to admit that if we can build C130 Hercules aircraft, Jump Jets and F35B's, we could build Thunderbird 2 today, and Thunderbird 1 could show Space X how it's done!
And in any case if Penelope had any real class she would have had a Bentley Continental, not some cheap roller :-)
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
L.A. to San Francisco in 30
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L.A. to San Francisco in 30 minutes? High-speed Hyperloop …
Successful test yesterday.
[EDIT]another video of the test
I'm prepared to go on record
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I'm prepared to go on record and say it won't happen. Even if it does, people won't use it.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
RE: L.A. to San Francisco
)
I reckon robl that it's more hyper loopy!
We will see how it all pans out in time.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now