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Stan M.
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6 Jul 2005 14:30:43 UTC
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    I have two problems.
    1) I run both Seti and Einstein both run 100 (50%)
    when Seti is done with it's 60 min and Einstein starts. Einstein will run all the time and not stop after 60 min to give seti it's time.

    2) Einstein will work all its WU but will not send them or download new ones. unless I press update to send, and reset project to download new WU.

    Ocean Archer
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    Boinc will not download new WU

    6 Jul 2005 15:34:40 UTC
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      I have two problems.
      1) I run both Seti and Einstein both run 100 (50%)
      when Seti is done with it's 60 min and Einstein starts. Einstein will run all the time and not stop after 60 min to give seti it's time.

      2) Einstein will work all its WU but will not send them or download new ones. unless I press update to send, and reset project to download new WU.

      Stan, you may have various issues at work here, but without a printout of the message page from your BOINC Manager I'm just guessing. Can you post the pertainent portion of your message page?

      1) You may be in an overcommitted state, and the program will not release.
      2) You may be in a condition where the system thinks you've spent too much time processing SETI work, and will not switch back until Einstein gets it's fair share.

      Ocean Archer


      If I've lived this long - I gotta be that old!

      Stan M.
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      RE: RE: I have two

      6 Jul 2005 17:20:24 UTC
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        Quote:
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        I have two problems.
        1) I run both Seti and Einstein both run 100 (50%)
        when Seti is done with it's 60 min and Einstein starts. Einstein will run all the time and not stop after 60 min to give seti it's time.

        2) Einstein will work all its WU but will not send them or download new ones. unless I press update to send, and reset project to download new WU.

        Stan, you may have various issues at work here, but without a printout of the message page from your BOINC Manager I'm just guessing. Can you post the pertainent portion of your message page?

        1) You may be in an overcommitted state, and the program will not release.
        2) You may be in a condition where the system thinks you've spent too much time processing SETI work, and will not switch back until Einstein gets it's fair share.

        Ocean Archer

        This is copy of my message page:

        7/6/2005 7:14:42 AM||Starting BOINC client version 4.42 for windows_intelx86
        7/6/2005 7:14:42 AM||Data directory: Q:BOINC
        7/6/2005 7:14:42 AM|Einstein@Home|Computer ID: 313XXXX; location: work; project prefs: default
        7/6/2005 7:14:42 AM|SETI@home|Computer ID: 111XXXXX; location: work; project prefs: default
        7/6/2005 7:14:42 AM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2005-07-02 11:24:19)
        7/6/2005 7:14:42 AM||General prefs: no separate prefs for work; using your defaults
        7/6/2005 7:14:42 AM||Remote control not allowed; using loopback address
        7/6/2005 7:14:42 AM|SETI@home|Resuming computation for result 15au03aa.20189.16656.65906.224_0 using setiathome version 4.18
        7/6/2005 7:14:42 AM||schedule_cpus: must schedule
        7/6/2005 7:35:37 AM||request_reschedule_cpus: project op
        7/6/2005 7:35:37 AM||schedule_cpus: must schedule
        7/6/2005 7:35:38 AM|Einstein@Home|Sending scheduler request to http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi
        7/6/2005 7:35:39 AM|Einstein@Home|Scheduler request to http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi succeeded
        7/6/2005 7:35:39 AM|Einstein@Home|General preferences have been updated
        7/6/2005 7:35:39 AM||General prefs: from Einstein@Home (last modified 2005-07-06 07:34:49)
        7/6/2005 7:35:39 AM||General prefs: no separate prefs for work; using your defaults
        7/6/2005 8:35:37 AM||schedule_cpus: time 3600.015625
        7/6/2005 9:34:45 AM||request_reschedule_cpus: process exited
        7/6/2005 9:34:45 AM|SETI@home|Computation for result 15au03aa.20189.16656.65906.224_0 finished
        7/6/2005 9:34:45 AM||schedule_cpus: must schedule
        7/6/2005 9:34:45 AM|SETI@home|Starting result 15au03aa.20189.17761.761084.2_1 using setiathome version 4.18
        7/6/2005 9:34:46 AM|SETI@home|Started upload of 15au03aa.20189.16656.65906.224_0_0
        7/6/2005 9:34:48 AM|SETI@home|Finished upload of 15au03aa.20189.16656.65906.224_0_0
        7/6/2005 9:34:48 AM|SETI@home|Throughput 408992 bytes/sec

        after update of Einstein
        7/6/2005 10:13:29 AM||request_reschedule_cpus: project op
        7/6/2005 10:13:29 AM||schedule_cpus: must schedule
        7/6/2005 10:13:29 AM|Einstein@Home|Sending scheduler request to http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi
        7/6/2005 10:13:30 AM|Einstein@Home|Scheduler request to http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi succeeded
        7/6/2005 10:17:28 AM||Running CPU benchmarks
        7/6/2005 10:18:25 AM||Benchmark results:
        7/6/2005 10:18:25 AM|| Number of CPUs: 1
        7/6/2005 10:18:25 AM|| 1708 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
        7/6/2005 10:18:25 AM|| 2907 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
        7/6/2005 10:18:25 AM||Finished CPU benchmarks

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        Also awaiting a paste of the

        6 Jul 2005 17:22:51 UTC
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          Also awaiting a paste of the messages tab, but besides what OA said, I'd guess you run a cache that's too big (4 days or more), so when you switch to E@H, you go into Earliest Deadline Mode immediately, to get rid of the E@H units, before their deadline is over.

          You may also not want to fiddle with Boinc for at least 14 days. Just let it run its course, even when it runs only Seti at that time. But then when you just leave it be, it'll work out its own problems and you'll see it go switching between E@H and S@H. It's just that the debt and long term debt may take a while to work themselves out.

          Quit the guessing. Question: Is the CC4.42 you are running for Windows?
          If it is, try updating to CC4.45, it has some fixes included for hanging work-units that didn't want to switch after their set time switch.

          Stan M.
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          RE: Also awaiting a paste

          6 Jul 2005 17:31:57 UTC
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            Also awaiting a paste of the messages tab, but besides what OA said, I'd guess you run a cache that's too big (4 days or more), so when you switch to E@H, you go into Earliest Deadline Mode immediately, to get rid of the E@H units, before their deadline is over.

            You may also not want to fiddle with Boinc for at least 14 days. Just let it run its course, even when it runs only Seti at that time. But then when you just leave it be, it'll work out its own problems and you'll see it go switching between E@H and S@H. It's just that the debt and long term debt may take a while to work themselves out.

            Quit the guessing. Question: Is the CC4.42 you are running for Windows?
            If it is, try updating to CC4.45, it has some fixes included for hanging work-units that didn't want to switch after their set time switch.

            This is a copy of my preferences

            Processor usage
            Do work while computer is running on batteries?
            (matters only for portable computers) yes
            Do work while computer is in use? yes
            Do work only between the hours of (no restriction)
            Leave applications in memory while preempted?
            (suspended applications will consume swap space if 'yes') no
            Switch between applications every
            (recommended: 60 minutes) 60 minutes
            On multiprocessors, use at most 2 processors
            Disk and memory usage
            Use no more than 5 GB disk space
            Leave at least 0.1 GB disk space free
            Use no more than 50% of total disk space
            Write to disk at most every 30 seconds
            Use no more than 75% of total virtual memory
            Network usage
            Connect to network about every
            (determines size of work cache; maximum 10 days) 1 days
            Confirm before connecting to Internet?
            (matters only if you use a modem) yes
            Disconnect when done?
            (matters only if you use a modem) yes
            Maximum download rate: no limit
            Maximum upload rate: no limit
            Use network only between the hours of
            Enforced by versions 4.46 and greater (no restriction)
            Skip image file verification?
            Check this ONLY if your Internet provider modifies image files (UMTS does this, for example).
            Skipping verification reduces the security of BOINC. no

            Ocean Archer
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            Stan -- You may have

            6 Jul 2005 21:50:06 UTC
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              Stan --

              You may have perfectly valid reasons for your selections, but I have a couple of comments:

              Quote:
              On multiprocessors, use at most 2 processors


              ...is your machine a dual processor laptop, or is it hyperthreaded? If not, then this should be set to 1.

              Quote:
              Maximum download rate: no limit
              Maximum upload rate: no limit


              ...if you are using a modem, shouldn't these values reflect the modem's speed?

              The final comment is to agree fully with AGELESS' encouragement to update to ver 4.45


              If I've lived this long - I gotta be that old!

              Stan M.
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              RE: Stan -- You may have

              7 Jul 2005 3:31:12 UTC
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                Stan --

                You may have perfectly valid reasons for your selections, but I have a couple of comments:

                Quote:
                On multiprocessors, use at most 2 processors


                ...is your machine a dual processor laptop, or is it hyperthreaded? If not, then this should be set to 1.

                Quote:
                Maximum download rate: no limit
                Maximum upload rate: no limit

                ...if you are using a modem, shouldn't these values reflect the modem's speed?

                The final comment is to agree fully with AGELESS' encouragement to update to ver 4.45

                Thank you all for your help I will update to ver 4.45 at the end of week.

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