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Message 34564 - Posted 19 May 2006 12:51:21 UTC

    A new App for Intel-based Macs is available on our Beta Test Page. It was built from the same code as the 4.58 Linux App, and should be way faster than our current official 4.46. How much faster exactly is left to you to find out.

    Happy Testing!

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    Message 34565 - Posted 19 May 2006 12:54:05 UTC

      Looks like I've gotta rob a bank to get myself a Mac-Intel....

      where's the PPC equivalent...? :sob:
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      Message 34567 - Posted 19 May 2006 12:58:33 UTC

        There is none (yet). Some part is coded in Assembler, which won't work on PPC.

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        Message 34687 - Posted 20 May 2006 10:06:26 UTC - in response to Message 34564.

          Perfect, this one is around 5 times faster than 4.46...keep up good work

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          Message 34775 - Posted 20 May 2006 17:37:53 UTC - in response to Message 34687.

            Perfect, this one is around 5 times faster than 4.46...keep up good work


            Can you specify in detail about your Intel Mac specs and WU completed in seconds.....?

            Thanks....
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            Message 35018 - Posted 21 May 2006 12:48:22 UTC - in response to Message 34775.

              of course...
              http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=639037

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              Message 36272 - Posted 28 May 2006 11:08:45 UTC - in response to Message 34564.

                How much faster exactly is left to you to find out.

                Happy Testing!

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                If I can trust the CPU time/percent done numbers the beta app is at least 4 times faster than the standard app. Standard app was approx 7h/WU, current WU is at 10 min/11% done. (Mac Mini Dual Core, 1,66 GHz, 2GB RAM)

                A huge improvement and a good reason to start crunching Einstein again.

                Thanks a lot for this speedup




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                Message 37169 - Posted 5 Jun 2006 6:17:46 UTC - in response to Message 34564.

                  A new App for Intel-based Macs is available on our Beta Test Page. It was built from the same code as the 4.58 Linux App, and should be way faster than our current official 4.46. How much faster exactly is left to you to find out.

                  Happy Testing!

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                  I am using iMac Core Duo 1.83 Mhz 1GB ram with other programs running and kids downloading. I am getting results of 4770 CPU sec. per WU. What is the best way to run 2 Boinc projects at once? Have them both at 100% and switch once an hour. With my Core Duo, I sometimes have 2 of either Seti or Einstein running, or sometimes I have one of each running.
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                  Message 37193 - Posted 5 Jun 2006 11:43:18 UTC

                    Big improvements here! ~ 22000 seconds before, now about 4400 seconds! That's 5 times faster. Great job :)
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                    Message 37202 - Posted 5 Jun 2006 13:18:14 UTC

                      Big improvements for me too. From 18,000 CPU Secs to 4,200 CPU Secs ...
                      BUT:
                      Whereas I was claiming 71.00 credits before, and being granted about 43/44 ...
                      I am now only claiming 16.20 !!!
                      HELP!!!!!
                      What is going wrong?
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                      Message 37214 - Posted 5 Jun 2006 14:18:11 UTC - in response to Message 37202.

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                        Big improvements for me too. From 18,000 CPU Secs to 4,200 CPU Secs ...
                        BUT:
                        Whereas I was claiming 71.00 credits before, and being granted about 43/44 ...
                        I am now only claiming 16.20 !!!
                        HELP!!!!!
                        What is going wrong?

                        Nothing. The claimed credit is roughly benchmarked_flops * cpu_time_used, so if you only need 1/4 of the time, the claimed credit will also go down by the same amount. Your granted credit, however, will probably not go down that much.

                        The next analysis run (starting in roughly 2 weeks) will probably be set up in a way that a fixed credit is granted for each Task, regardless of the time needed to crunch it.

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                        Message 37395 - Posted 6 Jun 2006 12:00:09 UTC

                          I am today, a VERY happy Bunny.
                          I am ticking over crunching a WU every 1hr 10mins ...
                          RAC has now slipped to the back-burner for me, as the total that is received is generally above that which is claimed ... and over the WU's that are now processed .... end up in FAR outstripping the old system!!!
                          THANK YOU Bernd.
                          Further, to date, and after spending only since 20th of last month on the project, I am just about to clip 10,000 credit units. This set-up is beginning to FLY!!!!!!!
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                          Message 37396 - Posted 6 Jun 2006 12:08:12 UTC - in response to Message 37395.

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                            I am today, a VERY happy Bunny.
                            I am ticking over crunching a WU every 1hr 10mins ...
                            RAC has now slipped to the back-burner for me, as the total that is received is generally above that which is claimed ... and over the WU's that are now processed .... end up in FAR outstripping the old system!!!
                            THANK YOU Bernd.
                            Further, to date, and after spending only since 20th of last month on the project, I am just about to clip 10,000 credit units. This set-up is beginning to FLY!!!!!!!


                            good for you.... I'm beginning to get jealous on the FLY....!!!!!!!!! lolx....

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                            Message 37399 - Posted 6 Jun 2006 12:22:15 UTC

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                              Hi !
                              I am no mac user but i have seen some errors in your work units. Are they serious?

                              2006-06-06 13:32:15.9022 [normal]: Start of BOINC application 'albert_4.39_powerpc-apple-darwin'.
                              2006-06-06 13:32:15.9618 [normal]: Started search at lalDebugLevel = 0
                              MacOS Error -43 occured in Mac_Lib.c line 65
                              MacOS Error -43 occured in Mac_Lib.c line 65

                              edit: Forget it. It seems to be just a problem of the old 4.39 client.

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                              Message 37472 - Posted 6 Jun 2006 19:43:54 UTC - in response to Message 37396.

                                I am today, a VERY happy Bunny.
                                I am ticking over crunching a WU every 1hr 10mins ...
                                RAC has now slipped to the back-burner for me, as the total that is received is generally above that which is claimed ... and over the WU's that are now processed .... end up in FAR outstripping the old system!!!
                                THANK YOU Bernd.
                                Further, to date, and after spending only since 20th of last month on the project, I am just about to clip 10,000 credit units. This set-up is beginning to FLY!!!!!!!


                                good for you.... I'm beginning to get jealous on the FLY....!!!!!!!!! lolx....

                                Hi! ... What mac do you have?
                                Apart from my Macbook Pro, I have a Dual G5 2.0 Gig (~15,000 CPU secs) and my trusty Laptop G4 1.0 Gig (~17,000 CPU Secs).
                                In your profile I see that it calls yours "PowerMac12,1". Is that the 'Quad 2.5' ? I would love to touch ~10,000 CPU Secs with my G5 ... how do you do it?
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                                Message 37487 - Posted 6 Jun 2006 20:36:26 UTC - in response to Message 37472.

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                                  Hi! ... What mac do you have?
                                  Apart from my Macbook Pro, I have a Dual G5 2.0 Gig (~15,000 CPU secs) and my trusty Laptop G4 1.0 Gig (~17,000 CPU Secs).
                                  In your profile I see that it calls yours "PowerMac12,1". Is that the 'Quad 2.5' ? I would love to touch ~10,000 CPU Secs with my G5 ... how do you do it?
                                  ;-D


                                  Nah.... PowerMac12,1 is native to iMac G5 (iSight) 1.9 and 2.1GHz.... Quads are under PowerMac11,2

                                  I never did anything.... I just ran the already optimised stock client....

                                  But I'm surprise yours are hitting the 15000 sec mark per WU. Did you set the processor performance to the highest setting....?

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                                  Message 37515 - Posted 7 Jun 2006 9:41:48 UTC - in response to Message 37487.

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                                    Hi! ... What mac do you have?
                                    Apart from my Macbook Pro, I have a Dual G5 2.0 Gig (~15,000 CPU secs) and my trusty Laptop G4 1.0 Gig (~17,000 CPU Secs).
                                    In your profile I see that it calls yours "PowerMac12,1". Is that the 'Quad 2.5' ? I would love to touch ~10,000 CPU Secs with my G5 ... how do you do it?
                                    ;-D

                                    Nah.... PowerMac12,1 is native to iMac G5 (iSight) 1.9 and 2.1GHz.... Quads are under PowerMac11,2
                                    I never did anything.... I just ran the already optimised stock client....
                                    But I'm surprise yours are hitting the 15000 sec mark per WU. Did you set the processor performance to the highest setting....?


                                    Nope ... How do I do that?
                                    Strangely enough the 4.56 App doesn't show the same speedup on G5s than it does on G4s. We are looking into this.
                                    BM

                                    I am running the 4.56 App on my G5 ... perhaps I ought to go back to the standard until BM comes up with a fix. It worked swell on my G4 ... but ...

                                    So if you could tell me how to do set the processor performance to the highest setting I would be happy!
                                    Many thanks
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                                    Message 37524 - Posted 7 Jun 2006 11:26:14 UTC - in response to Message 37515.



                                      Nope ... How do I do that?

                                      I am running the 4.56 App on my G5 ... perhaps I ought to go back to the standard until BM comes up with a fix. It worked swell on my G4 ... but ...

                                      So if you could tell me how to do set the processor performance to the highest setting I would be happy!
                                      Many thanks


                                      4.56 gave me a few invalid results on my G5 so I've switched back to the stock client.....

                                      As for the processor performance, go to System Preferences - Energy Saver - Options tab. Notice the Processor Performance drop-down menu at the bottom center of the window....? If it's on "Automatic", set it to "Highest". Do take note that it'll consume a little more electricity though.
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                                      Message 37549 - Posted 7 Jun 2006 14:16:34 UTC

                                        Is the assembler parts of the test application based on Akos C or U version? Since all Intel Mac’s are very resent, they should all be SSE3 compatible, right?

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                                        Message 37558 - Posted 7 Jun 2006 16:28:08 UTC - in response to Message 37524.


                                          Nope ... How do I do that?
                                          I am running the 4.56 App on my G5 ... perhaps I ought to go back to the standard until BM comes up with a fix. It worked swell on my G4 ... but ...
                                          So if you could tell me how to do set the processor performance to the highest setting I would be happy!
                                          Many thanks

                                          4.56 gave me a few invalid results on my G5 so I've switched back to the stock client.....
                                          As for the processor performance, go to System Preferences - Energy Saver - Options tab. Notice the Processor Performance drop-down menu at the bottom center of the window....? If it's on "Automatic", set it to "Highest". Do take note that it'll consume a little more electricity though.

                                          HEI!
                                          Thanks very much for that ... We will see what happens ...
                                          Many thanks
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                                          Message 37562 - Posted 7 Jun 2006 16:57:52 UTC - in response to Message 37549.

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                                            Is the assembler parts of the test application based on Akos C or U version? Since all Intel Mac’s are very resent, they should all be SSE3 compatible, right?

                                            The code has been developed with �Akos, but it is not identical to any of his Apps. Currently only SSE commands and registers are used.

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                                            Message 38839 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 15:31:15 UTC

                                              I see that the anonymous platform scheme we use for public Beta Test is badly prepared for the transition to S5R1 we're doing now.

                                              With that transition I'd consider the Beta Test to be over - and successful. The Apps we will use for S5R1 are almost the same than the ones we had in public Beta Test, the improved science code is actually identical, thus the new Apps will be precisely as fast as the Beta Test Apps.

                                              Thank you for all your help, this was incredibly useful!

                                              However the Beta Test Apps are lacking some features we found we need for the new run, and thus can't be used for the new Workunits. There is a bit of S4 work left, but no guarantee that the scheduler will try to give it to your machine. So

                                              - if you want to keep your machines busy regardless of the type of work processed, just remove the app_info.xml file (and restart the client). You will download the new App for the new work, and the old official App for the old S4 work.

                                              - if you prefer to do the old S4 work while it is available and risk your machine runs dry, keep the app_info.xml until there's no more S4 work left (we'll add an entry for that on the server status page).

                                              - if you want to live risky and enjoy it, try the following: remove the app_info.xml, but keep a copy of the Beta App executables somewhre outside the project directory. Restart the client. After getting S4 work and having downloaded the old official App, stop the client again and replace the executables of the official App with the backups of the Beta Test App. Then start the client again. There's no guarantee that this will fool all clients on all machines, but it should work most of the time and finish the S4 work with the speed of the Beta Apps.

                                              Have fun!

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                                              Message 39416 - Posted 19 Jun 2006 21:44:30 UTC

                                                I'm using a 2GHz Intel iMac, version 4.59 beta was working for awhile, then I got this message:

                                                Mon Jun 19 14:39:37 2006|Einstein@Home|Message from server: To get more Einstein@Home work, finish current work, stop BOINC, remove app_info.xml file, and restart.
                                                Mon Jun 19 14:39:37 2006|Einstein@Home|Message from server: No work sent

                                                I've never had this problem with the PPC version. What's up?

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                                                Message 39418 - Posted 19 Jun 2006 22:00:05 UTC - in response to Message 39416.

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                                                  Mon Jun 19 14:39:37 2006|Einstein@Home|Message from server: To get more Einstein@Home work, finish current work, stop BOINC, remove app_info.xml file, and restart.
                                                  Mon Jun 19 14:39:37 2006|Einstein@Home|Message from server: No work sent

                                                  I've never had this problem with the PPC version. What's up?

                                                  Just have a look at the post below. Bernd Machenschalk has already given you the answer.
                                                  Einstein has started the distribution of S5 workunits. To be able to process these units, you need a new woker application. The new worker can only be downloaded, if you do not use the anonymous platform mechanism (app_info.xml)
                                                  So go to /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/projects/einstein.phys.uwm.edu/ and remove this file. After restarting boinc, the new worker and workunits will be downloaded.
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                                                  Message 39587 - Posted 20 Jun 2006 15:21:38 UTC

                                                    well i can't use this app sinds de S5 sience run has begun. i receive a message telling me to finish the work on hand and then to start with this app 4.59...


                                                    What's the problem???

                                                    Will the App 4.59 be upgraded for S5 sience run for mac intel?????
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                                                    Message 39590 - Posted 20 Jun 2006 15:37:01 UTC - in response to Message 39587.

                                                      What's the problem?

                                                      yep. right question.

                                                      The S5 application you will download with your first S5 work (once you have removed the app_info.xml) named einstein_S5R1_4.03 is almost identical to the 4.59, just got added the new features we need for S5R1, and is equally fast.

                                                      So what's the problem?

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