Recording music ??

[B@H] Ray
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I have an old (high quality) real to real tape deck and lots of tapes that I recorded from records in the late 60's and 70's.

The record head on the deck is worn out but still plays back great.

Has anyone here used a computer to play back musuc and record it into MP3 or WMA files? Was thinking I should do something like that before the play back head also wares out.

I don't know what software would record the files that we can get for free, any suggestions from what you have done would be appreciated.

When I spent a year on a little island in the pacific courtisy of the USMC back in 69 that was a good to get music off of disk and onto the tapes.
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Recording music ??

This is by far the best free audio recording program that I have come across.

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Just a couple of points. Your

Just a couple of points. Your reel to reel decks were capable of recording MUCH better quality than your LPs could ever provide. This is to say that they can record all of the quality that the LP had IF the tape was of good quality and the recording technique was good. However, they (tapes) are suseptible to partial erasure from many sources not the least of which is itself and, of course, time.

Without going into a 5000 word tutorial, my recommendations are these:

For God's sake!!!!!! don't use MP3 as a recording algorythm (PLEASE!!!!!!!!) - at the very best it can only record 1/5 of the music content of a CD. It's fine for jogging and for ring tones on your phone but for nothing else unless you're a jackhammer operator or explosives technician who has no hearing left.

Surely by now your tapes are well on their way to being erased or lost due to erasure or fall out (the magnetic particles that hold the music fall off because the glue that holds them to the backing tape dries out). Use the best algorythm you can easily get. Right now, that's probably WMF - although that still uses moderate compression (compression = loss of realism).

Your LPs never came close to being able to capture what a well recorded CD can, but at least we'll hope that you used good recording techniques and quality tape when you recorded them. LPs were the best we could get "in the day". Hopefuly, you took care of them and used the proper cleaners and handling methods.

Before you do any of the transferring, have a pro demagnetize the heads of your machine. A consumer-level de-magger will be a waste of money and you don't likely know how to use it properly (no offense, but many "pro's" I know don't know the proper use of a demagnetizer). This will prevent the tape from being demagnetized as it passes by the repro (playback) head to play the music and thus partially ersasing the music before it comes off the machine (and is forever lost).

Use quality cables for the transfer. The crap that you get in your CD/DVD player's box, etc. is absolute whale sh**. It will strip away much of the electrical signal that represents your music. Do yourself the favor of a lifetime and invest in any of the plenitude of advanced cables available on the common market.

BTW, gold ends are the very LEAST of a cable's selling points. Gold ends only mean that the connection (on the cable's end) won't corrode over time and eventually inhibit signal transfer. Gold is not the best conductor, but it's the best that won't corrode besides platinum which is too expensive to commonly use.

It's what's in the wire itself that matters, the technology involved in the wire's construction. The rule of thumb is that cheap wire means that you're losing signal and wasting money on gear (this is more true for new TVs and DVD/SACD/DVD-A players than for transfers that you intend, but good cables can be used elsewhere when your project is done).

Good luck on your project.

Jim

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True, the tapes have lost

True, the tapes have lost some of there quality over the years, but still almost as good as back then. The cords I have are fairley good ones with gold connectins, but copper wire. Sure glad that I could get things at real low cost in Japan in the 60's, now they are about the same as here.

The weak point will be the short cable that connects the RCA plugs to the line in plug on the mouther board. Should get a good sound card that will take the RCA plugs directly, but will try this first.

Wasent sure what type of file to use, but with the WMA (Windows Media Audio) I can burn them to CD's to play in the car on trips.

What trips, almost stopped them as it takes to long to get anyplace. Have had a very over active thyroid disease all my life, for the past few years it has been burning itself out. On the last trip to NC to see the children I took 3 days getting back to CT (about 1000K) as I was having a real hard time staying awake during the day and could not sleep at night till the 3rd night. But got to see a lot of the Civil war battle fields in VA when too tired to drive. At least with being retired I do not have to worry about getting back late. If the wife could sleep in the car I could deive over night with no problem. At least the biopsy on the groths on the thyroid came out negative. Another night when I can't sleep so writting this at 4:45 AM.

When I get around to pulling the tape drive out of the cabnet all the stereo equipment is in to bring it upstairs to the computer I will let you know how it all goes.
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Ray


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So how did it go? I hope

Message 41421 in response to message 41420

So how did it go?

I hope you didn't lose any sleep over the cables. When you transfer old tapes there are many other factors that make much more of a difference: flaking, tape alignment errors, AD conversion quality [in other words audio card], recording software, ... all of those things matter much more than what kind of connector you use.

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RE: So how did it go? I

Message 41422 in response to message 41421

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So how did it go?

I hope you didn't lose any sleep over the cables. When you transfer old tapes there are many other factors that make much more of a difference: flaking, tape alignment errors, AD conversion quality [in other words audio card], recording software, ... all of those things matter much more than what kind of connector you use.

If you haven't transferred them yet it yet and if you have the hard drive space, (a BIG if!) I would suggest copying them to a uncompressed format like 'wav' first. The catch is that at CD quality (44khz, 16 bit) it takes about 1 MB per second (I think), more for higher quality.

The bonus is that you can try out several compressed formats like 'aac' or 'wma' or 'ogg vorbis', and levels of compression, and decide on the best for your purpose, without recopying.

PS: Think I may have exaggerated the size of uncompressed audio.

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