Yes, but if the magnetic poles swap out with each other (as they are said to do every eon or so...) would the cat have shown up in Berlin, instead?
Most likely, until they get used to the new poles. I've never seen it theorized that the poles swap. What are the supposed forces that could cause this? They would have to amazingly powerful. I believe this would be catastrophic to the planet if this happened.
Ariane, you aren't a Breatharian are you?
Heffed, categorizing things or persons and putting on them a label is an easy way for cognition in general , it has been used since the time of Aristotle until now. But we live in quantum era and based on uncertainty principle, behind each label and category of our science and knowledge is hidden an unknown and uncertain side which escape from our perception . Human mind and universe as microcosm and macrocosm don't escape the uncertainty of quantum mecanic concept. Now if you feel yourself recomforted by labelling people as scientologyst or breatharian and on and on , good for you , you are a lucky man , but for my part it is true that i practice yoga and zen and very attracted by ancient eastern vision of universe and also by shamanism , but how can i know what i am exactly , i am for myself as unknown as universe is.
When I talked about Great Magneto , I meant really The Great Magneto which attracts not only our solar system and our milkey way galaxy but All the Galaxies , subatomic particles, dark matter , vaccums, ultra-strings , matter and anti-matter , etc . I never limited myself into magnetic-fields of earth's poles , although this study is very "scientific" but it is not enough satisfying for the knowledge of the whole universe and its principles ....
But we live in quantum era and based on uncertainty principle, behind each label and category of our science and knowledge is hidden an unknown and uncertain side which escape from our perception . Human mind and universe as microcosm and macrocosm don't escape the uncertainty of quantum mecanic concept.
Ariane, I beg to differ:
By knowing some of the math for a system, consciousness shines a bright light even on uncertainty, and produces wonderful things like miniature solidstate electronic devices, lasers, etc. In your 'non-existence of time' thread you said nothing is real, so then what of the 'Great Magneto'? Is consciousness more real, or less real, than everything that's not real?
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When I talked about Great Magneto , I meant really The Great Magneto which attracts not only our solar system and our milkey way galaxy but All the Galaxies , subatomic particles, dark matter , vaccums, ultra-strings , matter and anti-matter , etc.
If you tell me that there's great principle that all these things have in common, like the natural laws in one galaxy are the same as the natural laws in any other galaxy, then I can accept that, but if you tell me that everything's attracted to a single thing, the 'Great Magneto', then I find that very difficult to accept, simply based on what is observed. Did you mean something else by, 'attract'?
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but for my part it is true that i practice yoga and zen and very attracted by ancient eastern vision of universe and also by shamanism , but how can i know what i am exactly , i am for myself as unknown as universe is.
Ariane, is it possible for someone else to know you better than you know yourself? You do realize, don't you, that in order for Zen to work, it's a prerequisite that you first believe and have faith in it? And surely you've heard that faith without work is dead? It's one thing to become enlightened, and quite another to then do work with it; there's a big difference between knowing that something is possible, and realizing that possibility. Enlightenment is an inevitability, regardless of how one goes about it, and I think those who strive to know the verisimilitude of both their self and the universe, not only have a deeper appreciation for life in general, but actually live a more abundant life.
But we live in quantum era and based on uncertainty principle, behind each label and category of our science and knowledge is hidden an unknown and uncertain side which escape from our perception . Human mind and universe as microcosm and macrocosm don't escape the uncertainty of quantum mecanic concept.
Ariane, I beg to differ:
By knowing some of the math for a system, consciousness shines a bright light even on uncertainty, and produces wonderful things like miniature solidstate electronic devices, lasers, etc. In your 'non-existence of time' thread you said nothing is real, so then what of the 'Great Magneto'? Is consciousness more real, or less real, than everything that's not real?
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When I talked about Great Magneto , I meant really The Great Magneto which attracts not only our solar system and our milkey way galaxy but All the Galaxies , subatomic particles, dark matter , vaccums, ultra-strings , matter and anti-matter , etc.
Chipper , thank you for your very intelligent reply , i will meditate all day about all these topics , and will post later .
If you tell me that there's great principle that all these things have in common, like the natural laws in one galaxy are the same as the natural laws in any other galaxy, then I can accept that, but if you tell me that everything's attracted to a single thing, the 'Great Magneto', then I find that very difficult to accept, simply based on what is observed. Did you mean something else by, 'attract'?
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but for my part it is true that i practice yoga and zen and very attracted by ancient eastern vision of universe and also by shamanism , but how can i know what i am exactly , i am for myself as unknown as universe is.
Ariane, is it possible for someone else to know you better than you know yourself? You do realize, don't you, that in order for Zen to work, it's a prerequisite that you first believe and have faith in it? And surely you've heard that faith without work is dead? It's one thing to become enlightened, and quite another to then do work with it; there's a big difference between knowing that something is possible, and realizing that possibility. Enlightenment is an inevitability, regardless of how one goes about it, and I think those who strive to know the verisimilitude of both their self and the universe, not only have a deeper appreciation for life in general, but actually live a more abundant life.
If you tell me that there's great principle that all these things have in common, like the natural laws in one galaxy are the same as the natural laws in any other galaxy, then I can accept that, but if you tell me that everything's attracted to a single thing, the 'Great Magneto', then I find that very difficult to accept, simply based on what is observed. Did you mean something else by, 'attract'?
I believe she's saying science doesn't know what it's talking about.
If you tell me that there's great principle that all these things have in common, like the natural laws in one galaxy are the same as the natural laws in any other galaxy, then I can accept that, but if you tell me that everything's attracted to a single thing, the 'Great Magneto', then I find that very difficult to accept, simply based on what is observed. Did you mean something else by, 'attract'?
I believe she's saying science doesn't know what it's talking about.
True Heffed, suppose something like this , i'll post later my comments
But we live in quantum era and based on uncertainty principle, behind each label and category of our science and knowledge is hidden an unknown and uncertain side which escape from our perception . Human mind and universe as microcosm and macrocosm don't escape the uncertainty of quantum mecanic concept.
Ariane, I beg to differ:
By knowing some of the math for a system, consciousness shines a bright light even on uncertainty, and produces wonderful things like miniature solidstate electronic devices, lasers, etc. In your 'non-existence of time' thread you said nothing is real, so then what of the 'Great Magneto'? Is consciousness more real, or less real, than everything that's not real?
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When I talked about Great Magneto , I meant really The Great Magneto which attracts not only our solar system and our milkey way galaxy but All the Galaxies , subatomic particles, dark matter , vaccums, ultra-strings , matter and anti-matter , etc.
Chipper , thank you for your very intelligent reply , i will meditate all day about all these topics , and will post later .
If you tell me that there's great principle that all these things have in common, like the natural laws in one galaxy are the same as the natural laws in any other galaxy, then I can accept that, but if you tell me that everything's attracted to a single thing, the 'Great Magneto', then I find that very difficult to accept, simply based on what is observed. Did you mean something else by, 'attract'?
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but for my part it is true that i practice yoga and zen and very attracted by ancient eastern vision of universe and also by shamanism , but how can i know what i am exactly , i am for myself as unknown as universe is.
Ariane, is it possible for someone else to know you better than you know yourself? You do realize, don't you, that in order for Zen to work, it's a prerequisite that you first believe and have faith in it? And surely you've heard that faith without work is dead? It's one thing to become enlightened, and quite another to then do work with it; there's a big difference between knowing that something is possible, and realizing that possibility. Enlightenment is an inevitability, regardless of how one goes about it, and I think those who strive to know the verisimilitude of both their self and the universe, not only have a deeper appreciation for life in general, but actually live a more abundant life.
Yes of course Chipper, it is possible for someone else to know me better than i know myself, but i'm afraid that this knowledge would be a restricted and limited one, depending on the cultural,social class, educational and perceptional background of that person, surely his or her judgment would reveal a part of the truth but not all the truth.I quote here just some examples : last night, for my distraction and also for wasting time , i passed 3 differents IQ tests with 3 different labs : with the first my IQ was 70 when the average was 100, so with that lab i had an IQ below the average. With the second i got 89 and with the third 140 . Since my childhood until now , all my relatives and friends who "know" me or pretend knowing me well consider me all a "genius".Some of them tell me now in my early fifty 's that i am as intelligent as Einstein and as "astute" as Winston Churchill was.One of my american friend, a high standing scientist call me an ignorant and sometimes stupid and "moron". This friend knowing that english is not my first language is always irritated by my "very poor english". On the other hand another american friend in a group to which i pertain and i post regularly my opinions, wrote me few days ago that my words work perfectly and she encouraged me to keep writing , she never imagined that i'm not a native english speaker. Given i spent almost all my life in studies and researches in every field from exact sciences to human science s etc , in many academies in the world , in some academies i was considered a genius and in others a retard. As for online american universtities i got my Doctorate degree in philosophy ,liberal arts and jurisprudence and my associate degree in astrophysics and maths . In some chatrooms i'm considerated a "retard" , in others an '"hyper-intelligent" , and on and on .... Which one knows me really as i am ? I simply know that all my "knowledge" has reached a stage which shows me that i "know" nothing . It is true that i have faith and i don't work enough , but is it really a matter of fact ? Since the moment that i enjoy life and i live an abundant life , nothing is more important than another. All my joy and happiness depend on Me and not on Outsider factor.This is a sort of living life in its fullness.
Yes Chipper, if we limit ourselves on what we "observe" , it would be difficult to admit the "Great Magneto"'s attraction , i can't use here mathematical equations or physics demonstrations, it 's just at the level of my personal feeling which is not of course admissible for the scientists , but suppose that in the process of the dilatation of the Universe , all things mentioned earlier are attracted by some unknown "energy", "magnetic field " or " a supreme existence " , you can call it as you like .
When i said "nothing is real" it was in a philosophycal context , as Socrates or Platon would say that. In this illusory world in which we live , of course we eat , we procreate , we measure , we invente technology , we discover , etc ... but all with the perceptions we are equiped with , just momentarly , which pass in a winck and then The Great Silence which is the Truth and the Reality . After all , have you ever tried to compare the "real" time of our daily life with the "unreal" time of our dreams ? Do you find any difference between them ? That is the Question ....
Ariane, I was trying to make the point that we can observe things we can't see (or feel). I was also trying to make the point that proper use of math can also show us real things that we can't see (or feel). Einstein@Home is a perfect example of both these points, with regard to gravitational radiation.
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.... Which one knows me really as i am ?
Of the individuals you mentioned, I'd say none of them know you. Based on what you've just shared, I'd venture to say that folks here likely now know you better, and that most would agree that you're intelligent and astute, among other things.
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... but all with the perceptions we are equiped with , just momentarly , which pass in a winck and then The Great Silence which is the Truth and the Reality
The intricate beauty of any flower is a deafening roar, to me, and I'm not even a botanist. Neither in that 'peace which surpasses all understanding' have I found any “Great Silence”. Maybe I'm different that way, with truth and reality being very loud...
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After all , have you ever tried to compare the "real" time of our daily life with the "unreal" time of our dreams ? Do you find any difference between them ? That is the Question ....
It's good to see that you do assign shades of gray to “real” and “unreal”. The more you know about math, the better equipped is your mind to process these experiences. Your mind is like any muscle. Exercise it, and it gets stronger. I'm adept at lucid dreaming at night, and at having waking dreams in the day. I hope that answers the “Question”...
Ariane, I was trying to make the point that we can observe things we can't see (or feel). I was also trying to make the point that proper use of math can also show us real things that we can't see (or feel). Einstein@Home is a perfect example of both these points, with regard to gravitational radiation.
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.... Which one knows me really as i am ?
Of the individuals you mentioned, I'd say none of them know you. Based on what you've just shared, I'd venture to say that folks here likely now know you better, and that most would agree that you're intelligent and astute, among other things.
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... but all with the perceptions we are equiped with , just momentarly , which pass in a winck and then The Great Silence which is the Truth and the Reality
The intricate beauty of any flower is a deafening roar, to me, and I'm not even a botanist. Neither in that 'peace which surpasses all understanding' have I found any “Great Silence”. Maybe I'm different that way, with truth and reality being very loud...
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After all , have you ever tried to compare the "real" time of our daily life with the "unreal" time of our dreams ? Do you find any difference between them ? That is the Question ....
It's good to see that you do assign shades of gray to “real” and “unreal”. The more you know about math, the better equipped is your mind to process these experiences. Your mind is like any muscle. Exercise it, and it gets stronger. I'm adept at lucid dreaming at night, and at having waking dreams in the day. I hope that answers the “Question”...
Oh Chipper, thank you for your very kind reply , henceforth i'll try to concentrate myself on mathematics, excellent idea !
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Heffed, categorizing things or persons and putting on them a label is an easy way for cognition in general , it has been used since the time of Aristotle until now. But we live in quantum era and based on uncertainty principle, behind each label and category of our science and knowledge is hidden an unknown and uncertain side which escape from our perception . Human mind and universe as microcosm and macrocosm don't escape the uncertainty of quantum mecanic concept. Now if you feel yourself recomforted by labelling people as scientologyst or breatharian and on and on , good for you , you are a lucky man , but for my part it is true that i practice yoga and zen and very attracted by ancient eastern vision of universe and also by shamanism , but how can i know what i am exactly , i am for myself as unknown as universe is.
Ariane
When I talked about Great
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When I talked about Great Magneto , I meant really The Great Magneto which attracts not only our solar system and our milkey way galaxy but All the Galaxies , subatomic particles, dark matter , vaccums, ultra-strings , matter and anti-matter , etc . I never limited myself into magnetic-fields of earth's poles , although this study is very "scientific" but it is not enough satisfying for the knowledge of the whole universe and its principles ....
Ariane
RE: But we live in quantum
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Ariane, I beg to differ:
By knowing some of the math for a system, consciousness shines a bright light even on uncertainty, and produces wonderful things like miniature solidstate electronic devices, lasers, etc. In your 'non-existence of time' thread you said nothing is real, so then what of the 'Great Magneto'? Is consciousness more real, or less real, than everything that's not real?
If you tell me that there's great principle that all these things have in common, like the natural laws in one galaxy are the same as the natural laws in any other galaxy, then I can accept that, but if you tell me that everything's attracted to a single thing, the 'Great Magneto', then I find that very difficult to accept, simply based on what is observed. Did you mean something else by, 'attract'?
Ariane, is it possible for someone else to know you better than you know yourself? You do realize, don't you, that in order for Zen to work, it's a prerequisite that you first believe and have faith in it? And surely you've heard that faith without work is dead? It's one thing to become enlightened, and quite another to then do work with it; there's a big difference between knowing that something is possible, and realizing that possibility. Enlightenment is an inevitability, regardless of how one goes about it, and I think those who strive to know the verisimilitude of both their self and the universe, not only have a deeper appreciation for life in general, but actually live a more abundant life.
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Ariane
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I believe she's saying science doesn't know what it's talking about.
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True Heffed, suppose something like this , i'll post later my comments
Ariane
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Yes of course Chipper, it is possible for someone else to know me better than i know myself, but i'm afraid that this knowledge would be a restricted and limited one, depending on the cultural,social class, educational and perceptional background of that person, surely his or her judgment would reveal a part of the truth but not all the truth.I quote here just some examples : last night, for my distraction and also for wasting time , i passed 3 differents IQ tests with 3 different labs : with the first my IQ was 70 when the average was 100, so with that lab i had an IQ below the average. With the second i got 89 and with the third 140 . Since my childhood until now , all my relatives and friends who "know" me or pretend knowing me well consider me all a "genius".Some of them tell me now in my early fifty 's that i am as intelligent as Einstein and as "astute" as Winston Churchill was.One of my american friend, a high standing scientist call me an ignorant and sometimes stupid and "moron". This friend knowing that english is not my first language is always irritated by my "very poor english". On the other hand another american friend in a group to which i pertain and i post regularly my opinions, wrote me few days ago that my words work perfectly and she encouraged me to keep writing , she never imagined that i'm not a native english speaker. Given i spent almost all my life in studies and researches in every field from exact sciences to human science s etc , in many academies in the world , in some academies i was considered a genius and in others a retard. As for online american universtities i got my Doctorate degree in philosophy ,liberal arts and jurisprudence and my associate degree in astrophysics and maths . In some chatrooms i'm considerated a "retard" , in others an '"hyper-intelligent" , and on and on .... Which one knows me really as i am ? I simply know that all my "knowledge" has reached a stage which shows me that i "know" nothing . It is true that i have faith and i don't work enough , but is it really a matter of fact ? Since the moment that i enjoy life and i live an abundant life , nothing is more important than another. All my joy and happiness depend on Me and not on Outsider factor.This is a sort of living life in its fullness.
Yes Chipper, if we limit ourselves on what we "observe" , it would be difficult to admit the "Great Magneto"'s attraction , i can't use here mathematical equations or physics demonstrations, it 's just at the level of my personal feeling which is not of course admissible for the scientists , but suppose that in the process of the dilatation of the Universe , all things mentioned earlier are attracted by some unknown "energy", "magnetic field " or " a supreme existence " , you can call it as you like .
When i said "nothing is real" it was in a philosophycal context , as Socrates or Platon would say that. In this illusory world in which we live , of course we eat , we procreate , we measure , we invente technology , we discover , etc ... but all with the perceptions we are equiped with , just momentarly , which pass in a winck and then The Great Silence which is the Truth and the Reality . After all , have you ever tried to compare the "real" time of our daily life with the "unreal" time of our dreams ? Do you find any difference between them ? That is the Question ....
Ariane
Ariane, I was trying to make
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Ariane, I was trying to make the point that we can observe things we can't see (or feel). I was also trying to make the point that proper use of math can also show us real things that we can't see (or feel). Einstein@Home is a perfect example of both these points, with regard to gravitational radiation.
Of the individuals you mentioned, I'd say none of them know you. Based on what you've just shared, I'd venture to say that folks here likely now know you better, and that most would agree that you're intelligent and astute, among other things.
The intricate beauty of any flower is a deafening roar, to me, and I'm not even a botanist. Neither in that 'peace which surpasses all understanding' have I found any “Great Silence”. Maybe I'm different that way, with truth and reality being very loud...
It's good to see that you do assign shades of gray to “real” and “unreal”. The more you know about math, the better equipped is your mind to process these experiences. Your mind is like any muscle. Exercise it, and it gets stronger. I'm adept at lucid dreaming at night, and at having waking dreams in the day. I hope that answers the “Question”...
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Oh Chipper, thank you for your very kind reply , henceforth i'll try to concentrate myself on mathematics, excellent idea !
Ariane